Those were kind of my early years. CRAWFORD: I want to circle back to the late 80s. That was very attractive to them, too. 1 hour from Salina. I began to see a problem with the liquid crystal field, all of the display work was being done in industry, and all these people were going to these display society meetings, while the liquid crystal materials people doing basic research were going to the International Liquid Crystal Society. Although, spinoff companies can provide license income to the university as well. MIT was loosely involved, Columbia University, and UCLA. Kitchen has beautiful knotty pine cabinets. Then, in 1998, you received the Jan Rajchman Prize from the Society for Information Displays, which is described on their website as, "For an outstanding scientific or technical achievement in or contribution to research on flat-panel displays." It turns out that writing tablets actually use both PDLCs and cholesteric liquid crystals in which polymers are dispersed in the cholesteric liquid crystal. But the first two years of graduate school, I really couldn't do too much research. Another great incentive is that your university appointments are only for nine months, and you've got to support your family in the summertime. I didn't mind it not being in Kent necessarily, but I did want some of it to stay in Kent. It was another possible way to make a display and other optical devices. Full basement offers additional storage and workshop space. Forming the company while I still directed the Institute caused some issues. They were not interested in any applied aspects. Event starts on Sunday, 30 April 2023 and happening at Brandon Town Center Mall, Brandon, FL. CRAWFORD: Maybe not as a categorial research program. CRAWFORD: I'm thinking of somebody like the current CEO, Asad Khan, who did his dissertation at the LCI while he was working full-time at Kent Displays.DOANE: We've had a lot of students here from Kent State in addition to Asad as well as students from other local universities. You have to give it to Jim, he really understood the value of this twist cell technology. There now have been many other spinoffs. In my view, if Kent was going to really build graduate programs, it needed to focus somehow. Shirley knew I wanted to go back to graduate school and was quite supportive of that, even though she wanted to start a family. They really liked to use their technology for PR, to say they'd developed it, started these new companies, and were getting into the economy. CRAWFORD: This kind of fits with a little bit of what we're talking about right now, how the Institute relates to the two main departments that are related to the study of liquid crystals, physics and chemistry.DOANE: Actually, biology is getting more and more involved [and, as I understand it, also engineering and there may be more].CRAWFORD: You mentioned that as part of ALCOM, the University committed to this new building, which is the LCI building at the end of the science mall on campus. If you have a joint development, you determine who owns it and who doesnt, this kind of thing. Before, it was called Kent Display Systems. They were further instrumental in involving other industries such as 3M.] It's a win-win situation to have local companies build up around a university. Why did you decide to pursue a patent on these things?DOANE: I could see that they had value. We were surprised to see this result. Win over prospective landlords with your smart budgeting. The company soon became a manufacturing company, marketing and selling a consumer product in high volume. Request Tour Send an Email Highlights Here are some of the most popular amenities Pet Friendly Patio Floor Plans 1 unit available 1 Bedroom 1 bed 1 bath $625/mo Shirley went with me. It did play a huge role. But what a distraction that was, taking considerable time away from company development.That's the thing about patents: a patent doesn't help you much unless you protect it. Black Friday shoppers at Town Center mall. You have to be able to see how you fit in and how you can contribute. Those were pretty much my early years in a nutshell.CRAWFORD: What was it that attracted you to radio?DOANE: I'm not really sure. It wasn't easy for the company to do all that. Glenn learned that he wanted to immigrate, and Glenn wanted to see if he could get him. It was called that because chemistry got their PhD program first. I didn't like the way this ended up.CRAWFORD: Just to play devil's advocate, would it be fair to say that this was a product of maybe the decision to have the LCI off-campus? That focused the company right there. Bill got the company going, but the defense contracts helped it to grow to further develop the technology. It's actually a nice piece because he put his phone number in there and said, "Anyone who has questions, give me a call." But neither one of them wanted to do that. But Albert Green, at that time, had a big job on his hand in taking it to that level].CRAWFORD: What do you think he brought in particular? Basically, it was a job interview. ], CRAWFORD: Yeah. I don't know what I would've done without him. I told them I would do it if I could have a few positions with the promise that I would bring in some federal support for the program. A slight pressure of the pointed object creates an image. That was what really got the company off the ground and involved in marketing and sales that had to be developed.CRAWFORD: Had the company done any test marketing or user studies?DOANE: No, it really didn't have much in the way of marketing. Kent State made money on licensing, [but they didnt make a lot in view of work and the trouble it can cause, particularly if the patent is challenged and there is a court battle. Basically, cancerous tissue has a different temperature than normal tissue, and they could detect it by very sensitive temperature measurements using liquid crystals. In the early 70s, when Schadt and Helfrich were working at Hoffmann-La Roche, what kind of display were they thinking of making? I thought liquid crystals were really a great thing to focus on. [Laugh] I happened to wander by this one room, and I looked in there, and it was just full of electronics. We didn't have that technology. I asked my advisor who these guys were, and he said, "They worked with Professor Purcell up at Harvard. Town Center at Aurora is a fully enclosed regional shopping destination in Aurora, Colorado, and serves the nearby communities of Aurora, Buckley Air Force Base, The Anschutz Medical Campus, the Lowry neighborhood and residents of southeast Denver. Last month, the real estate company QIC was going to buy Forest City's stake in the Town Center Mall. CRAWFORD: When he did talk about applications, it was mostly in cancer detection work with breast cancer and so forth, and less about the work on displays and stuff. Enter a site search term and use the ENTER KEY to submit your search They didn't want me to do this at all. The company has been improving on this over the years. That wasn't in my interest at all. We had contracts from the Navy, DARPA, the state of Ohio, and so on. If it didn't have that film on it, you could only see it if you were looking directly at it. DOANE: I never viewed myself as a pioneer. I just said, "Oh, I was an amateur radio operator and was impressed by all these electronics." They further provided substantial funding to Kent State for PDLC research. CRAWFORD: In 2007, you received another award, the Slottow-Owaki Prize from the Society of Information Displays, and this is an award for your contribution to the education and training of students and professionals in the field of information display. The Institute would've been a larger and more effective organization much earlier. As I pointed out, when I went to the first Society meeting, I didn't see any other universities, it was all industry and they were getting heavily involved with liquid crystal displays. There, he got involved with temperature sensors and stuff. I wanted to stay here. And they decided to go with a twist cell. 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When we think about displays now, we think about computers and very dynamic displays. CRAWFORD: It sounds like from what you're saying about this idea in 1969, the ground was shifting. Do source of income protections exist for me at the state level in Georgia? 2 Beds; 2.5 Baths And there's this kind of story that until Dr. Brown's review essay in 1957, there wasn't that much going on with it.DOANE: No, there wasn't. And the size. I don't think anybody else did. DOANE: It was very good for the LCI [and also for Kent State in other ways]. I'd known about this group for years. Usually, in magnetic resonance, your radio signals are absorbed by the nuclear spins, but you could get them so they could emit. Please contact the. Well, I talked to Shirley, and we didn't know that we could really afford to move down there. [Laugh] I certainly didn't know anything about licensing of patents [and I did not intend, at that time, to start a company to make products. I have lost track of where they're sold now but I think mostly overseas. Nearby cities and villages : Corbelin, Granieu and Brgnier-Cordon. DOANE: Yes, I think that's [one major benefit]. The dispersed polymers are necessary to control the width of the written line. He wasn't spending time at the Institute, the two weren't speaking to one another, and Glenn wanted to ask me if I would support him firing Fergason. DOANE: I don't know how you define a pioneer, but I would say that my primary contributions, while I've published a lot and written a lot of patents, was more in working with others, getting others involved, building a program for Kent State University. Theoretically, you could, but practically, there were lots of problems in doing that. Right now, I can watch my computer recording our conversation. Then, founding Kent Displays. We decided at one time to try Amazon, and we sent them a number of them. 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Is there a particular reason why they focused on that type of cell at that time?DOANE: I don't know their reasoning, but I can tell you why I'd choose it. The physics department was very small, and the only way you could get a doctoral program was to do something with chemistry, so they created this graduate program in Chemical Physics. We made some [very nice full-color, high resolution, flexible color displays]. It really gives us a lot of insight.DOANE: It's kind of fun to go back and think through these things. listen here. CRAWFORD: Was there a sense at that time in the late 60s and the 70s, was there a sense that academic science was a different world than industrial science?DOANE: Yes. But the professors themselves often are the ones [who often want to keep hold of that technology. We usually make it green because the eye picks up green very well. It's a lot more than just doing science. I thought I wanted to go into electrical engineering.CRAWFORD: Was it the problem-solving, working with your hands that attracted you to engineering?DOANE: I think so. I know we've covered quite a bit of ground.DOANE: I have to say, I'm really impressed how prepared you were for this and how much you knew before you even set foot through this door. The first time they came out, we submitted an application, but just did it with the people in the Institute and institute facilities. The University had no program for licensing. John West was very helpful on all of that stuff. We put together a massive proposal from our group to NSF. DOANE: The early 70s, of course, is when the THEMIS grant was going. However, licensing in general is not a very good business to be in no matter who you are, I found out. As I understand Phil, this display technology you're looking at right there on your cell phone is from one of our students.CRAWFORD: For the audio, you're showing me an Apple iPhone. One problem with that was that the people who were interested were primarily foreign companies. $269,900. But back then, for that situation at that time, me being in academia, in the physics department, and there being a big desire to understand the fundamental properties of liquid crystals, it was important to collect liquid crystal research on the research campus at KSU to help the faculty involved. I thought, "Oh, he's switching between two bistable structures, something that others had not been able to do. For example, there was a group (or perhaps groups) taking commercial high resolution flat panel displays apart and reconfiguring them to make them more rugged for aircraft and other applications. [Laugh] I had to try to tie all of these programs together to show how they could blend together. My Toy Chest. At that time, a group at Xerox had started looking at it. My colleague, Pino, who was named on the patent, wanted to publish all this stuff. That would've been fine, except when Jim was at Kent State, when he was writing the patent for this twist cell, he got some development money from Timex, a US wristwatch company. One thing that hurt the company a lot in the early years, a company down in Texas started making cholesteric displays infringing on our technology. In the process of all of that, was a person monitoring the contract who became very interested in our company. I think one of the biggest impacts we had on display technology is on cell phones that came from our students. If you lower the voltage of the pulse to another certain level, it will turn to the other texture for the background. Fortunately, I was picked, as well as quite a few others, although not everybody but most. Oftentimes, people talk about academic research, especially at this time, as being more independent because there weren't private interests, they weren't working for a company's lab. Town Center at Cobb is Northwest Atlanta's main shopping destination. Disease has always been the biggest killer. CRAWFORD: I'm wondering about the relationship between Kent Displays and the Liquid Crystal [Institute]. You need a very bright backlight behind it to see a color image. They awarded 12, but we weren't awarded one in the first group. That's another big story. Find all the information of Les Avenires Veyrins-Thuellin or click on the section of your choice in the left menu. I had considered staying and working at the University of Washington, but I really wanted to work with Nelson Duller. CONNECT WITH THE LOCAL REAL ESTATE ADVISOR. So, that sort of thing? I even made a display out of them. I didn't think I wanted to stay in the Army. [Laugh] We put this together, and we got up to the point where NSF said they wanted to make a site visit. Learn why in our, 442-H New York Standard Operating Procedures. These don't have to be refreshed. I hadn't been back in Ohio but a few days, and they sued us. [Laugh] I went to high school in Southwest Missouri. In the case of liquid crystals, he was sort of correct in the sense that liquid crystals were a material nobody understood, and that basic research had to be done on it. There were a couple professors I kept running across in the literature. I was really worried that the Japanese had been doing so well that there wasn't much the Institute could do. We had nice sales in Israel. The name of the company who manufactures this now and markets it is Ebulent [and its CEO is Xiao-Yang Huang]. It was a source of funding in an exciting area of research for faculty to get into and apply what they knew to that. That was my interest. Request More Information. Right away, we were beginning to make signs out of the cholesteric liquid crystal technology. CRAWFORD: Would you say your ability to win grants and contracts was a kind of expertise?DOANE: Yes, that was an expertise. They wanted something you could wear, could see very clearly, and not have to change the battery. This is our second session, and we're doing this interview in his office at Kent Displays. Everybody in the US lost on this issue. CRAWFORD: Who was that?DOANE: His name was Albert Green. More I saw only a few closed stores on. After I finished that, the Army discovered that I and one other guy in this class were physicists, and they said they needed communications officers. Looking back on it, I'm not sure why he hired Fergason in the first place. CRAWFORD: They've basically shut campus down. The others pretty much went by themselves.CRAWFORD: How did this collaboration come about?DOANE: Here's how I recall it started. But it would've been nice [to have kept Fegasons industrial pursuit linked in a friendly way with the academic pursuit of the institute such that his industry could have survived. In fact, this company has received funds from the state of Ohio. 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