The horns from 1933 (Handcraft Committee) through the early 60s (the Magna) can hold their own with anything ever made. > Nickel Plate (6) Conn transitionals are some of my favorite horns of all time. quotes. I am inclined to believe it is just a mis-stamp of the serial, out of all of the possibilities. it seems that when some people brought in their old Conns Eb Alto Naked Lady with Serial Numbers. that had most of the features of a "Naked Lady" > Burnished Gold Plate (00), 6M A famous example would be the early 30s Conn instruments. And lastly, here is a tenor example of a horn with the NM stamp. They will always have snap in pads and Norton springs. On the one hand, this could simply mean that a body tube was stamped accidentally in the second digit with a zero- which would give it a serial from an earlier run, and the X was to denote a horn with a duplicate serial number. Straight soprano $2000 Tenor $ 2400 1989 3900000. > Burnished Gold Plate (00), 8M This portion contains conjecture by me, and me alone. I think the ones below around 275000 are good horns, and that you should be careful above that number. Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 10 Rue Neuve-Saint-Georges Paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 50 Rue Saint-Georges Paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 26 Rue de Rocroy Paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 39 Rue de Dunkerque paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 56 Rue Laffitte Paris, Antoine Joseph (Adolphe) Sax 6 Rue Lallier Paris, Wonder Improved - Elkhart IND & Worcester MASS, Wonder Improved & Wonder Perfected - Elkhart IND, Slant Signature Special - Stainless Steel, 1875 C.G. These horns are under appreciated . Alto $ 1200 As far as I know,noVIII METROhorns have been found! sand blast velvet finish, bell richly engraved, pearl finger They are undervalued. Conn Trumpet Notes Catalogue - Vol. Keys inlaid with Please note that in order to help fund the site we may serve ads by via Google AdSense, and cookies may be used for personalisation of these ads to make them more relevant. It could mean alto, which would have been an easy way to keep track of how many altos (the most popular model by far) were selling vs. tenors, baritones, and such. You can buy two wonderful old Conns for what some people are asking for Selmers of the same era. (odd numbers would indicate high pitch -- e.g. > Silver This is NOT original. Tenor $ 2800 These later examples play very well, but you should deduct 50%.. All of this series is mostly found in lacquer, so add 25% for silver, and 35% for the very rare gold examples. 6M -the letterAat the end of most alto serial numbers in this period (andonlythis period) Finally after #278k (1937), all altos and necks are simply markedVIIIif they are marked at all. .Ive seen a couple of Committee models with sterling silver necks. This list is not correct for Conn saxophones (see Conn Woodwind Serial Numbers) or Conn bugles (see Pan American Brass Serial Numbers). Repairing and overhauling these 6M variants is relatively straightforward, but I would recommend bringing them to a vintage saxophone specialist- ideally someone familiar with Conns- for best results. Tenor $1400 Watch this gear and we'll notify you if it becomes available again. new "longer" design and the bari and bass didn't In other words, Year Range; Serial Range; Wonder Improved - Elkhart IND & Worcester MASS; 1888 - 1893: 0 - 149: 1893 - 1894: 150 - 199: 1894 - 1895: 200 . To me, I think that since the term transitional is unofficial, it is easier and make more sense to apply it as it is defined- therefore to all saxophones from the end of the New Wonder Series II line that have any of the new features that eventually end up on the 6M. In addition, there are some interesting neck variations that show up during the transitional period that last through the first few years of regular 6M production. : Highly polished brass throughout, pearl inlaid finger tips Alto Zephyr Spcl. Alto Low A $ 5000 The lateral lever is one-piece construction and engages the slot straight across the iron. Silver examples bring about a 20% premium; gold plate about 30% more. 1990. Track 1: Mouthpiece Comparison (x5) on a Conn Transitional 12M #245k: MC Gregory GALE 4M, Selmer S80D, Otto Link 6*, Meyer 6M, Steve Broadus Perfected Model Of course, this is The Big Daddy Rabbit With the Fuzzy Tongue. and bass models (actually during the late New Wonder period) In the late 1950's, When I set out to prepare a reference guide for pricing vintage horns, I did so with the clear understanding that its not a perfect world, and that the preparation of a perfect value guide would be impossible. These are the first horns that really sound like Selmers. Deduct for needed repairs and/or restoration to original condition. - A horn . 400 SERIES 291XXX - 381XXX . The prices range from around $1000 for one in not-so-great shape needing an overhaul to around $2700 for a freshly overhauled excellent condition example- with the rare gold plate or an extremely pristine STDD or VIII stamped version sometimes going for a bit more than that. These come in three flavors: New Largebore (11951 13000); Cigar Cutter (13,000 17,000), and Super (17,000 18,700). Made in 1930, with wonderful art-deco engraving. Im one of those fanatics. Baritone $2500. This series is characterized by: 1. Ask the seller privately for the number and do a search for that instrument. body and nickle keys " not realizing the variety of Please check the fields highlighted in red. note that there are later relacquered ONE Tenor $ 3000 serial number range that are 100% New Wonder models and were Soprano straight $1000 C soprano $1000 1989. don't ask for the web address because i don't remember. 5 This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. and the baritone and bass models were soon offered keyed to is the change in design of the chromatic F# key and G# cluster, 2. - A horn Baritone $ 3100. New Wonder Transitional: 237,000 (1930) 263,000 (1935) Artist ("Naked Lady") 263,000 (1935) unknown (1971) Connqueror 26M & 30M: 263,000 (1935) 309,000 (1943) Connstellation 28M . Alto $ 2200 I will be adding more soon, as well as checking for accuracy and updating these with more historical and instrument information. refers to Conn's change from the New Wonder series of horns Alto $ 2800 I've not seen Finish 5 on any Tenor $ 2400 Thanks to the person that assembled this! C Melody Tenor Please also note that "burnished" means "mirror-like" Straight soprano $1600 Conn then continued this finish choice for years. Some early 26Ms were also marked METRO or NATL, with serials suffixed AM or AN. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. bored :). have been contacted by someone who said that he had a horn It just got a complete overhaul by Matt Stohrer, and it's the best playing 10M I've sold in years. Those serials started with a 'C'. Mostly in lacquer, add 10% for silver. Were talking about REAL saxophones here! *1980 - 1986 serial numbers are for student trumpet and cornets only. Tenors and alto horns only. Soprano $1500 rolled-tone-hole (HP), Bb Tenor Naked Lady with We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. NEW ARISTOCRAT 255XXX 270XXX Tenor $ 800 Conn Trumpet Notes Catalogue - Vol. Its important that the serial numbers on the neck match the body. Tenor $ 5000 The chance this was stolen from the assembly line are near 0, there would be a clear account of how many were produced in a day and who handled them. 15 August 2012 Corrected some HTML errors and moved all instruments in the trumpet section to the gray color scheme. Prices may vary considerably depending upon the amount and style of engraving. Toward the high end of the serial number range you begin to see some examples that look like 400 bells on Aristocrat bodies. I have based my research on actual selling prices by recognized dealers. There are, of course, a very few Super 20 baritones, some with silver necks (add 15%) and I have seen one with a silver bell. BALANCED ACTION 21751 35800 At this point, I dont believe these horns to be prototypes (I have now worked on a genuine Conn 10M prototype), but the other explanations dont cleanly add up. The pre 1960 horns follow the numbers well. > Silver & Gold (1) Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. and are not included)(5): engraved near the serial number. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. (etc.) The __gads cookie, set by Google, is stored under DoubleClick domain and tracks the number of times users see an advert, measures the success of the campaign and calculates its revenue. 2 ("Silver, Gold Bell"): Body heavily silver plated, or nickel keys. Curved soprano $ 2200 deduct 20% if keyed to Eb only M SERIES 260XXX 834XXX 18M Bb Soprano, Straight > Burnished Gold Plate (00), 10M or for information regarding use/reproduction If the model "Connstellation" is engraved on the leadpipe, then it is a 28B Connstellation trumpet. Inside of bell, engraving background Baritone $ 3100, THE MARTIN, MUSIC MAN, AND MAGNA The Conn Transitional saxophones derived their model name from the transition from the "New Wonder" models to the 4/6/10/12/14M Artist ("Naked Lady") series. Engraving is uncommon above 275000. You are very sure there is no model number there. Except for the Saxello, I cant find anybody expressing much interest in the Kings made before the Zephyr. Alto $ 900 These are optional and you can choose to enable/disable any such cookies in your preferences: All profit to charity Currently: 97500 -, Did you enjoy this article? I No. Baritone $1800 key was moved to the underside of the neck to protect it from So, lots of questions and not many answers. This is a very late Conn transitional tenor saxophone that still has offset bell keys. Baritone $1800. rolled-tone-hole (LP), Eb Alto Naked Lady with Soprano $1500 3811713 - 3821881. There Baritone Super 20 $ 4000. I have only addressed instruments for which there is a regular and established market, so not every model is included. keys and ferrules gold-plated and burnished. For altos, the serial number range of the transitional horns is roughly 234,000 to 270,000- give or take a few- which means from roughly 1930 to 1935. There is no past damage, and there are no past repairs of any kind. Alto $ 2400 rolled-tone-holes, Eb Alto Connqueror with rolled-tone-holes, Bb Tenor Connqueror with rolled-tone-holes. Around number 272XXX, the Super 20 was introduced. I think this finish choice is possible, Much better horns than the 22s and 26s. Tenor Typewriter $ 2400 3900000. This is essentially a renamed Super with different engraving. Once this initial batch with the NM stamp is done, the stamp disappears- probably because there was no reason to differentiate anymore as all horns were now the New Model. The baritones are extremely rare and fabulous! If not, it could be this (rare, so unlikely) model: 8B Symphony Grand (Gustat). The beautiful Theres nothing on this Earth quite like one of these at full song! Other features that changed (incomplete list): new double socket neck design I found it darker and rounder. 20 July 2012 Cornet section: Replaced picture on 20A Flugelhorn (1926). Absolutely worth it! Soprano $3000 front F redesigned The Zephyr baritone remained essentially unchanged throughout the production run and sound great. I have personally worked on two tenors and an alto built by Conn that were stamped with an X after the serial number. (enamel) and "Poly-Chrome" (enamel with painted though: I think that there are some horns produced in this Year Range; Serial Range; True Tone - Buescher Manufacturing Co. 1894 - 1904: 1 - 2499: True Tone - Buescher Band Instrument Co. 1904 - 1905: 2500 . The Website copyright 1997-2006 by Pete Hales. Usually seen in silver, deduct 20% for lacquer, add 20% for gold non-artist examples. for refinish work, the repairman would look at the horn and 6, 1882 C.G. Please consider. Updated text on 1911 Large bore Bb and C. Updated Cornet model number . If the horns were indeed floor models, why have I never seen others outside of that serial range, and why were they ALSO mis-stamped? Usually seen in silver. Tenor Zephyr Spcl $ 3000 add 15% for silver neck Alto 28M $ 4000 plastic keyguard must be intact by Conn themselves relacquered this way! Theyre almost always seen in satin silver. Add 20% for gold plate. B: the inside diameter of the inner sleeve of the tunable neck (you will need to complete unscrew the tuner barrel to get to it) These transitional 6M saxophones can have a wide variety of features, in general evolving over time from configurations that are mostly identical to New Wonder Series II configurations to configurations that are almost identical to the eventual 6M model of 1936 that remained mostly unchanged until 1948, when the rolled toneholes were discontinued. It is not a precise point, but represents a time-span which may have lasted from a couple of weeks to over a year. I No. Almost perfection ! 3811713 - 3821881. that had most of the features of a New Wonder model, but with Lucky you! > Satin This is most evident in the change from Alto $ 2000 . Serial numbers can be used to identify supposedly better instruments. Baritone $ 2500 But what does the A suffixmean? TRANSITIONAL 240XXX 260XXX Jun 11, 2021. But here goes: Some altos made as early as 1932 have stampings on the necks in front of the microtuner sleeve eitherSTDD MorSTDD N. Thenin the #276k-277k range only(1936-37), altos appear that are stampedMETROorNATLunder the thumbhook, after the model number. These are the Top Hat and Cane horns, the best of the Bueschers. 3, 1884 C.G. There are a few silver (add 20%) plated ones, and a very few (add 30%) gold ones. Connection Sessions; Dealer Locator; China. ARISTOCRAT 270XXX 290XXX Connstellation Model (28M) Years: 1950 - 1952 Serials: 328000 - 351000 (2 specimens) C.G. It's a completely made up name, as Conn started to refer to these horns by model number only. Yes, it was around serial number 263,000 that Conn changed the tenor saxes from two-sided to one-sided bell keys, and this is usually described as the end of the Transitional period and the beginning of the 10M or Artist series. MARTIN HORNS THROUGH 1933 400 SERIES 291XXX 381XXX Although the stamp is not shown in the photos, its existence is confirmed by its previous owner and its current owner. Buy Conn Tenor Saxophone Saxophones and get the best deals at the lowest prices on eBay! The early ones are mostly seen in silver, add 15% for gold plate. Your purchases help youth music programs get the gear they need to make music. BUESCHER Serial Numbers. All Rights Reserved. The name comes from the bell engraving. The Conn-Selmer resource guide appears to leave out the S prefixes on its serial number list, deduced from an observation made here: . Great Savings & Free Delivery / Collection on many items . Some had sterling silver necks (add 20%), very few were silver plated (add 20%), Ive seen a gold one, although I was not totally convinced it was original. Conn Trumpet Notes- Vol. keys. ibid., 1927 catalog. 14M Bb Bass Usually seen in silver. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. they also occasionally used the appleations that are in If a seller does hide part of the number you may wonder if they are trying to hide the fact that it is stolen. If you have one or have pictures of one, please contact Soprano $1500 20% for gold. Granlund Woodwind Repair The engraving is beautiful, but they just dont play very well. Please Date Serial Number 1894 High Pitched Models 2,000 1895 2,000 1896 2,000 1897 2,500 1898 3,000 1899 3,500 1900 3,900 1901 4,400 1902 5,100 1903 6,700 1904 8,500 1905 9,600 1906 10,800 1907 12,000 1908 13,000 1909 Starting at #268xxx (1935) was the deluxe 26M Connqueror(additional info here), with the permadjust key foot system, redesigned LH pinkies, and solid silver touches. Conn Serial Number Ranges By Model. Tenor $ 2800 The years 1967 to March 1974 (when Conn moved their brass manufacturing to Abilene, Texas), is a period where at least some of the instruments were inferior in quality Fat sound and great intonation. me! > Silver & Gold (1) or Best Offer. There are quite a few saxophone serial number charts on the internet, these ones have mostly been adapted from existing manufacturers and saxophone enthusiasts charts. Baritone $ 3400 has no chromatic F# They do play rather nicely, and you sometimes see them in silver (add 20%) and Ive heard there were some gold ones. [E]ngraving background, Some models certainly command the highest prices. These horns have a real cult following. 6 : Body heavily nickel plated and highly polished, pearl fork Eb trill disappears -the nickname New York Neck, of unknown origin, usually used for the non-tuner overslung, but sometimes confused with theMETROneck 1 ("Silver & Gold"): Body heavily silver plated, > Nickel Baritone $ 3600. This is a partial list, and represents only some of the most visible changes. I think these horns are undervalued. However, Gold Plate (00), 12M vintage alto saxophone top tenons for alto saxophone. These are the very best of the Aristocrat series. Gold Plate (0), Burnished While Conn generally used the numbers to refer to finish, The differences in the variations are pretty minor, mostly in mechanism. Alto $1800 The earliest examples are stamped Serie 22. and have a unique side Bb mechanism. Baritone 12M $ 3600. The engraving is usually not too elaborate. That includes cornets, trumpets, horns, trombones, euphoniums and basses. View similar gear from other sellers on Reverb. Ideally you should have a record of the serial number with your sales receipt and won your insurance details. The new model alto was part of a redesign of most of the Conn saxophone line, taking place one model at a time, from 1928-34. Tenor $ 2900 VII No. price chart, in 1930/31 dollars. > Nickel Plate (6) These horns all appear within a few hundred serial numbers of each other right around 235,000, in both alto and tenor. They play much better! They also had features well ahead of their time (assuming the serial was correct)- though the alto much more so. Both Paul and Brian are fellow Conn lovers, and this article would not have been possible without their help. Tenor 30M $ 4000 The best vintage tenor, IMHO have that much of any change after s/n 220xxx -- and the tenor the biggest change from the New Wonder to the M series of to refer to these horns by model number only. I think these are often overlooked and underpriced. In 1936-37 (#276xxx-277xxx) appeared a run of about 1,000 horns stamped either 6M METRO or 6M NATL. 1927 dollar = 10.05 2006 dollars. Alto 26M $ 2800 I've seen a couple of horns refurbished Baritone $1800. If you note any discrepancies, or have additional information concerning this company, please contact us here at Horn-u-copia. Eb Alto During the 1920's Conn dominated the booming saxophone business in the US along with its . Straight soprano $ 2000 Bizarrely, one of them sportedstraight toneholes. available with the large variety of New Wonder finishes. post by keltonshields. C soprano $1000 MUST have original mouthpiece 1991 4100000. a list of model numbers for Conn saxophones from the 20th century. This cookie, set by YouTube, registers a unique ID to store data on what videos from YouTube the user has seen. "Transitional" refers to Conn's change from the New Wonder series of horns to the 4/6/10/12/14M Artist ("Naked Lady") series of horns. - 237xxx for the alto and included the underslung octave key This is a Conn 6M Transitional alto saxophone in original silver plate with original case and mouthpiece in excellent physical condition with serial number 252xxx dating it to mid 1932. during this era you could get: - A horn Silver is not uncommon (add 15%), gold a little more scarce (add 20%).. Its generally agreed that Selmer made some of the very best horns of all time. Its been done with the Buescher New Aristocrats to some degree, but only because theyre such prized classical instruments and the variations are fewer neck stamps01, **, 3in a very limited serial range of #263k-268k (1931-34). Alto $ 2300 Conn Trumpet Notes - Vol. SUPER 11951 18700 0 - Artist Finish ("Satin Gold"): Heavily gold plated Bass $ 7000. Conn Trumpet Notes - Vol. The cookie stores information anonymously and assigns a randomly generated number to recognize unique visitors. Alto Zephyr $1800 If you find an Oops, looks like you forgot something. Bare Brass (4) (Note: The name 6M comes from Conns model number for altos at the time, and the 6M model number is seen in catalogs only until 1936, when Conn started stamping 6M on the body of the saxophone above the serial number.). To some, the true transitionals are only the saxophones with left-hand bell keys. It is rumoured that there is a scam, by which somebody who acquires your serial number can then claim the instrument is theirs. Resources. Ok, on with the article. Alto $ 2100 The test_cookie is set by doubleclick.net and is used to determine if the user's browser supports cookies. hand burnished. Later ones have sculpted low Eb/C keys like the legendary S-1. Thus, M= sax, O=flute, N=clarinet, D=French horn, etc. The _ga cookie, installed by Google Analytics, calculates visitor, session and campaign data and also keeps track of site usage for the site's analytics report. the only horn that had any DESIGN CHANGES was the Eb alto. This may just be paranoia as I have never heard of this happening, nor can I understand how it could happen. RADIO IMPROVED 18701 21750 They play rather nicely. Copyright 1994 - 2023. Ive seen a couple of people pay some really stupid prices for these. I am currently working on measuring Conn transitional necks, and when I have a conclusion (if I reach one) I will post it here. Alto Super 20 $2600 see above commentary for adjustments There seem to be very few people (outside of a few collectors) buying these horns. And why was the alto so far ahead of its time (assuming the serial rings true)s, while the tenors were only different in a few areas? This series is characterized by: The evolution in keywork design. . These cookies ensure basic functionalities and security features of the website, anonymously. Conn never called these horns Chu Berry, but were stuck with the name. A famous example would be the early 30s Conn instruments. Ending 19 Apr at 9:00PM BST 8d 1h Collection in person. More info: Better feel and intonation than the Balanced.. Inside of bell engraving background, keys, posts and ferrules > About Conn-Selmer Conn-Selmer Careers Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility Latest News Accessibility Statement Contact Conn Selmer. Stripe sets this cookie cookie to process payments. plating choices Conn had. After 1937 all 26Ms were marked VIII until the end of production in 1942. These are really nice players, much sought after. Deduct 10% for lacquer, add 30% for gold. All 26Ms were stamped 26M to distinguish them from the standard model 6M. The fourth character indicated the instrument: "1" = Cornet, "2" = Trumpet, "3" = Alto Horn, "4" = French Horn, "5" = Mellophone, "6" = Valve Trombone, "7" = Slide Trombone, "8" = Baritone Horn & Euphonium, "9" = Tuba, and "10" = Sousaphone. The 234,xxx saxophone with the sculpted side E key would have been produced in late 1929, and this first modification to the New Wonder II would have been a direct result of the founding a little over a year earlier of Conns famed Experimental Laboratory led by saxophone design genius Allen Loomis. Tenor Music Man $2800 very rare, but fabulous! The indication (LP) and (HP) after the model Deduct 25% for horns after this number. example). This page contains a list of Conn serial numbers for brass instruments. The straight Bb soprano had already been transitioned to the Comments, to the 4/6/10/12/14M Artist ("Naked Lady") series The later examples have snap in pads and Norton springs. Gold Plate (0) Loyalist website. The In other words, The markingVIIIappears until about 1945. The pattern stays the same, but it takes up a larger space on the bell. I have a 262850 transitional. (In other words, tack another zero to the end of the price Couesnon Models; 1900 . Some of the data that are collected include the number of visitors, their source, and the pages they visit anonymously. Add 15% for silver, 25% for gold plate. that doesn't have "6M" Conn ws a highly organized and mechanized production. This is probably what happened to cause Conn to stamp the neck tenons of the very first batch of transitional horns with NM- most likely for New Model- on the neck tenon. I saw this It has not yet been overhauled, and is pictured in its current state with pads that are about 50 years old. Note: From 1987 to present, add 50 to the serial number prefix to calculate the year of manufacture. for about what that horn would have cost today.). XI No. Some of these are beautifully engraved (add 10%). Therefore they probably had a couple batches going at the same time, and thus needed a way to differentiate between the batches coexisting at the factory when they switched to a new process or modified the design in a non-obvious way, such as slightly different internal dimensions or something like that. Nothing else is quite like it. Tenor $1400 Tenor Zephyr $ 2400 So who knows? This Conn alto saxophone is a forerunner of the Conn 6M. Conn Trumpet Notes Catalogue - Vol. rolled-tone-hole (LP), Eb Baritone Naked Lady with At the same time theprefixletter M, used on all saxes since 1924, is dropped. Heavily gold plated, hand burnished over all, pearl inlaid in the elimination of the "buzzy A"; the octave > Silver Here are a few things to bear in mind: When advertising an instrument for sale, you will often see the serial number referred to as 36xxxx. Satin > Nickel Plate (6) Search. XI No. They lost their rolled tone holes after WWII. > Satin Gold Plate (0) Saxophones in most moderate to large factories were produced in batches- that is, a few dozen to a couple hundred at a time of a particular type. The suffix A disappears from 6Ms and 26Ms at #276xxx (late 1936). > The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". SN: 246065 Gold Plate Art Deco Transitional SN: 248650 RARE Transitional 6M in Gold Plate SN: 250151 Gold Plate Transitional 6M SN: 250404 Silver Plate Transitional 6M SN: 250669 Lacquer Transitional 6M SN: 254135 Silver Plate Transitional 6M SN: 257986 Gold Plate Transitional 6M SN: 267736 TENOR SAX Experimental "Transitional" Prototype SN: 247803 Finally, I believe Finish 3 refers to a silver-plated horn without redesigned ergonomics on palm keys (It may possibly just have been the NATL neck, as at least one sax has been noted with both stampings). Conn Trumpet Notes- Vol. Additionally, the only Conns with the X stamped after the serial number that I have heard of were within a small serial range- around 200,xxx to 208,xxx- the first year of the ExperimentalLaboratory. keywork before their alto and tenor siblings, which is a rather All the new ones have a yellow There are many variations, but later examples tend to have rolled tone holes, adjusting screws for the stack keys, beautiful engraving, and a sound thats hard to beat. If you feel any image or soundbyte used here is in violation of copyright C: the inside diameter of the inner tenon on the body end. 6M Eb Alto After the mid 1950s, the Zephyr became an intermediate model, so deduct 30%. > Bare Brass (4) The changes that were made at this point were the redesigned palm keys, the raised and sculpted side E, redesigned octave pips, and possibly a slight alteration to the neck tube inner dimensions. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. They have quite a cult following today, and with good reason. I used to have a 1932 transitional alto with a New York neck. Interestingly, the alto I have seen (206,xxxAX serial number, pictured below) has almost every feature to be found on the eventual 6M. Horns made for the European market are often unengraved, and lacquered examples may have silver plated keywork. May have silver plated keywork every model is included additional information concerning this company, contact! - though the alto much more so socket neck design i found it and... Have additional information concerning this company, please contact us here conn transitional serial numbers Horn-u-copia Earth quite like of... For brass instruments lasted from a couple of Committee models with sterling silver.... Do a search for that instrument partial list, deduced from an observation made here:: near! Alto saxophone is a very late Conn transitional tenor saxophone that still has bell. 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