he is just too haxed, but i can see jiren beating zamasu. It's not about the battles. Anime Zamasu gets railed until he becomes Infinite and then its just kind of incompleteable for Jiren. Fusion Zamasu ( , Gattai Zamasu) is a fusion born of the union between Goku Black (Present Zamasu in Goku's body) and Future Zamasu through the Potara earrings. These clones can also block Ki sensing), Size Manipulation (Can increase his size), Rage Power, Afterimage Creation, Likely Analytical Prediction and Light Manipulation (Via Solar Flare), Electricity Manipulation (Via Lightning of Absolution), Explosion Manipulation, Possibly has Sound Manipulation, Statistics Amplification, Pressure Point Strikes, and Energy / Ki Absorption, Half of his body adapted to gravity via the Gravity Machine and has Resistance to Extrasensory Perception (Cannot be sensed by beings lesser than a God), Extreme Heat, Extreme Cold, Harsh Temperatures, Cosmic Radiations, Paralysis, Time Stop (Goku Black stated to possess all of Gokus abilities), Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (At least as strong as Infinite Zamasu, who is simply the disembodied will of himself that spread across the universe after his body was cut down. and yes i understand if you say ultra instinct goku beat kefla who is a merged character and tbh idk what to think about that tbh, i honestly think caulifla and kales base is ALOT weaker then gokus base form which would explain it then and they were just be able to challenge goku when not in fusion cause 1 goku wasnt trying and 2 he was worn out from his previous battle with jiren, because for goku to get a 4,000,000,000,000,000 power increase seems kinda rediculous tbh lol unless its just plot induced stupidity, but i get your argument if you think jiren wins i just felt its better to explain my point of view on why zamasu wins instead of something on the line of imo zamasu wins lol, but the first part and the last part in the ps section was serious i dont think the infinite feat or time feat should be used since logically sizes in infinite and numbers in general are infinitely very inconsistent when talking about other dimensions meaning you can only scale off of goku logically. Power Infinite zamasu lacks in power to defeat jiren, but jiren has no means at all to deal with him. Although it is initially blocked by the three Saiyans, they are overpowered at the end of the blast and are knocked down, albeit successfully protecting Future Mai, Bulma, Shin, and Gowasu as well as the Time Machine. He didn't take out Jiren during this case lol, and that would contradict the ToP statements as Zamasu was never shown to expand his size more than the future universe 7's space-time axis in the process of effecting the present timeline and nothing else. This is both Infinite Zamasu & Jiren The Gray from both Dragon Ball Super manga & anime before their deaths without any injuries. However, his regeneration is less potent than before due to having a partially mortal body), Immortality (Types 1, 2 and 3; Able to still fight after being reduced to his will and thoughts of justice), Shockwaves Generation, Telekinesis, Telepathy, BFR, Teleportation (Via Instantaneous Movement), Dimensional Travel, Magic, Creation (With Magic Materialization), Space-Time Manipulation & Portal Creation, Possibly Durability Negation (Using a scythe, he can cut through space-time to create rifts that can summon clones of himself with Regeneration [Mid-Godly] & Immortality [Types 3 & 8; As long as the space-time rift exists the clones will keep regenerating or more will appear. Immeasurable lifting strength won't be an outlier don't worry so I agree with it scaling to the TOP top tiers. Updated December 26, 2022 by Daniel Kurland: There is no shortage of powerful juggernauts in Dragon Ball that could take out most of a solar system if they were so inclined. Did you check the thread where it was first accepted? discord.gg/dbz. Universe 6's famed assassin Hit is an extremely powerful character who is strong enough to kill most who stand in his way. The Ultimate Power of an Absolute God, Dragon Ball Super: Episode 67 - With New Hope in His Heart - Farewell, Trunks, Dragon Ball Super: Episode 66 - Showdown! I don't think so, he was just feeling his presence (energy). However, as Future Trunks stabs Goku Black, the latter gets back up and blasts him. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I think Jiren takes this. That would explain the increase in power. Zeno is a terrifying source of entertainment because some of his most brutal erasures of existence are merely the result of his boredom. Jiren initially holds the upper hand, but Goku's growing confidence in his mysterious new form gives him the lead. Broly is a Saiyan from Universe 7 who grew up on Planet Vampa after being exiled by King Vegeta long ago. Hit VS Jiren! Jiren is bloodlusted so he'll try to win via any means, who wins? Beerus can't beat Infinite Zamasu. Goku didn't stop the entire planet tho, just a small portion of Moro wrestling with him. He was defeated and the Time Rift vanished. Naturally, Zamasu is significantly stronger, since the fusees in Goku Black/Zamasu are significantly stronger than the Saiyan punks, operating at a much higher level of power (SSR vs SSJ2) - thus . Your argument was, "Zamasu merged with the universe, so he should be able to utilize a universal amount of energy". Plus his own will/Mind fused with the universe which is an aspect of ki itself. In the manga, as a result of Fused Zamasu's Potara Fusion running out, but Future Zamasu and Goku Black being one and the same, as well as Future Zamasu's immortality bleeding into Goku Black, they refuse to defuse, resulting in a monstrosity half Goku Black half Future Zamasu, who is splitting down the middle due to Goku Black and Zamasu refusing to come undone. JavaScript is disabled. But like, how? However, Ultra Ego Vegeta represents a powerful evolution that feeds into the Saiyan's aggressive tendencies. Transforming into his Grotesque form lowers his speed at the expense of higher attack power. Dragon Ball Super hasn't been easy for Gohan fans, but the newest feature film, Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, finally gives Gohan the showcase that he deserves. You said this needs to stop. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In the anime, this being is the surviving will of Fused Zamasu left over from his destruction because of Future Zamasu 's immortality. Goku wanted another shot at full power as a last stand and not because he thought he could win. He most likely didn't even know Zamasu had become a universe. present timeline. A Fight Without End: Who Can Topple Jiren? Merged Zamasu as of his first appearance, except he starts at full power instead of waiting until his face has been kicked in. unless universes dont work like that Im db, or Im just being dumb, If we agree zamasu merged with the universes which is never stated btw. @shenron007: by blowing them up, not an actual hakai, there is no evidence of that. I am talking about Zamasu's immeasurable lifting strength. Same threads, same repeated arguments from both sides since how long? Jiren is one of the most powerful characters in the history of Dragon Ball. The energy of the universe could be infinite, but he is not using the energy of the universe. Ill give you that. Does Jiren have a chance by nuking the Universe Zamasu spread into? If so, there's a case to be made for both Jiren/Infinite Zamasu to win here. to "fusion zamasu (super dragon ball heroes)", the three of them could momentarily defend themselves, even while weakened, and they were ultimately overpowered, but survived, he knocked the shit out of Goku and Vegeta in his grotesque form, he folded them immediately after coming into existence, nonviable examples of Stabilization Feats, https://vsbattles.com/threads/minor-infinite-zamasu-addition.114702, Dragon Ball Super Anime: Fused Zamasu and the Rival Danger Scale. Goku vs. Jiren First Round Supercut - Dragon Ball Super Miles 8.4M views 5 years ago Dragon Ball Super: Goku & Vegeta Train and Grow Beards English Sub CHADL3Y 15K views 6 years ago Dragon Ball. 1) Vs. Infinite Zamasu In Dragon Ball Super's "Future" Trunks Saga, Goku and friends find themselves fighting two different versions of the Kai in training, Zamasu. ago Jiren but Infinite Zamasu would win cuz he's Inmortal. A discussion-dedicated Dragon Ball subreddit. zamasu never lifts anything is the problem, the most moving he does is expanding and moving around, if he is moving around he has to be able to lift himself. I don't think so much tbh, there's just a guy there trying to say that Zamasu took over the other universes in the future timeline to say that he took Jiren or something else. Jiren has no way for putting him down permanently. An official fight with the Grand Priest has yet to happen and it likely never will. Forgot if he was referring to the regular one or the Infinite one tho. In this state, Infinite Zamasu is a mass of Zamasu faces. And Jiren could probably win with just glares. If somebody finds it, let me know. and kaioken goku could send him flying with kicks alone. In the manga, he showed signs of extreme fear and panic the instant he was aware of Future Zeno's presence. As long as the space-time rift exists the clones will keep regenerating or more will appear, was becoming one with the universe and overriding its law and order, he was even shown to be present in the main timeline, was affecting the present to a certain degree, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. However, Vados is occasionally the subject of mockery since she's saddled to Universe 6's uncouth God of Destruction, Champa. @standardized: jiren can't be powerful than two merged gods. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. Either Goku overestimating himself, or underestimating IZ because maybe he didn't fully grasp what IZ had become. Privacy Policy. Whis surely can deal with him. Jiren is stronger but the question is if he can find a way to put Zamasu down permanently. These two mechanical creations give Gohan and Piccolo a tough time until they ascend to their new transformations. Infinite zamasu lacks in power to defeat jiren, but jiren has no means at all to deal with him. Cell. Jiren fails to hit him before Zamasu becomes 2C and spanks. In a broader sense, it was just a throwaway line which is used for Goku to find the Zeno button and isn't enough for any kind of change. Whis stated that the Hakai wouldn't kill him. Vegeta used his fInal Flesh on Zamasu body, and the remaining peieces became a bunch of Zamasu. Friezas powerful Golden transformation can go toe-to-toe with Super Saiyan Blue power, but Dragon Ball Supers manga has introduced an even more intimidating echelon of strength. Ok, so to understand how overpowered Infinite Zamasu really was in the manga. Jiren easely best Zamasu and imprison him with the device he used in the manga to capture a criminal. Zamasu only beat them by exploiting the life link between the Kaioshin and the GoD. Rei is an avid fan of anime and manga. Re: Jiren vs. Zamasu. Jirens presence has been quite sparse following the climactic events of the Tournament of Power, but hes still righting wrongs in Universe 11 and capable of incredible destruction that can put many Dragon Ball characters to shame. One way of stopping it is creating a discussion rule and closing any threads that are made by giving the reason "this has been discussed countless times before". Not even a fraction of Whis' full strength has been seen, and it likely never will, but it's still fascinating to consider. Promotional material doesn't mean anything if it contradicts the story. Powers and Stats Tier: Low 2-C, higher with Light of Justice, far higher with Gigantification | Low 2-C Name: Zamasu (Fusion Zamasu, Fused Zamasu, Merged Zamasu) Even if IZ has immeasurable lifting strength, no other character would get it. He is as arrogant as his previous incarnation, declaring himself to be above his fellow gods. It would be better if it is replaced with unknown. Jiren and Goku are much stronger individually but there's nothing they can do to kill and eliminate Zamasu who was consuming all of timelines. I would have to search for it. No one below the Angels can truly take out Merged Zamasu. Interestingly, the visage of Fused Zamasu that appears is his original, base state, rather than the Super Saiyan Ros form that Fused Zamasu previously had his body destroyed in. Hell, even Goku thought he could handle Infinite Zamasu if he had another senzu bean available Infinite Zamasu required Zen'o himself to get rid of. It's the beginning of the arc when they ask about him. I am not sure why we would assume his lifting strength like that unless we are saying he can lift himself? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Kefla's defeat is only a matter of time if Jiren is involved. #21. We have no idea how it works, and probably never will. non kaioken goku was able to severely damage merged zamasu. And jiren is still above all of them. Whis simultaneously trains Goku and Vegeta, which is no small feat. Not moving around. | Class. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. @frocharocha: When has Jiren cut anything? Ultimately, this crusade leads him into conflict with Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks in a no holds barred apocalyptic showdown. Seems like people just agreed because "he is a spacetime continuum". Merged Zamasu. In the manga, Infinite Zamasu retains Fused Zamasu's exact appearance and the Super Saiyan Ros form he had as Fused Zamasu. In the Dragon Ball Super manga, Infinite Zamasu retained the Super Saiyan Ros form that he possessed when he was Fused Zamasu. He didn't think he could take him. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member Feb 20, 2020 #5 Jiren has no way of killing him the fact that zeno was required to nuke him tells you much It's pretty silly. As of the anime (for Juju Kaisen), Zamasu has better feats and is several times beyond universal (as an understatement) he can just negate Gojou's infinity by being more powerful than him, even if he lets him use his domain expansion. XSOULOFCINDERX They/Them. That likely kills Moro as well. Being multiple Fused Zamases, Infinite Zamasu is even stronger than any of his predecessors. manga zamasu I'm not so sure. Jiren destroys him. Base Jiren loses. This upgrade allows him to eviscerate the Heeter Forces Gas, but he also knocks out Ultra Ego Vegeta and Ultra Instinct Goku in a single blow. Both are incredibly skilled martial artists who are able to match Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta blow for blow and are pragmatic enough to attack their foes from behind and steal their power) | Unknown (Seems to have devolved into a mindless beast bent only on the destruction of mortals, as all he does is cackle madly), Weaknesses: Due to being a fusion of a mortal and immortal being, Fusion Zamasu's immortality is compromised and his regeneration is far slower. if he were to be a universe, he would be expanding by default, faster than his gravity causes him to collapse. As such, there are countless individuals in Dragon Ball who slowly get bested by Jiren in combat. Expanding is growing bigger. This version of Infinite Zamasu was based on the anime version. Declaring that the world needs to be erased, Future Zeno charges his energy and releases a radiant light, which erases the screaming Zamasu along with the entirety of the future timeline,[3] finally ending his reign of terror as well as preventing his plans from reaching its maximum potential and stopping his attempt to invade the present timeline. With that being said, Infinite Zamasu's regeneration ability surpasses even Majin Buu's, as even the slightest trace of Infinite Zamasu can reform into clones that are all equal in power, something Buu is incapable of doing. 3. We had an entire thread discussing this with the conclusion that he actually did so, I don't think it's even note worthy trying to make repetitions at this point. In this form, Infinite Zamasu's regeneration is so great, he was able to survive being blasted to smithereens and even have said pieces regenerate to form clones of Fused Zamasu. If he literally couldn't do anything, he and Whis should show further concern but doesn't. Beerus could wipe out Earth in an instant, but he's built a reputation for prolonged laziness and a passion for rich cuisine. However, power levels are a fickle thing in Dragon Ball and there are still several characters who could find ways to win in a potential skirmish. 2017? it's impossible to do that with 3-A energy because the gap in power required to do so is infinite according to the standards, But really, none of this is proving that Zamasu's ki experienced an infinite growth in size. Jiren can't. . It's impossible to tell what level of power Universe Zamas had compared to Patora Zamas. For information regarding the procedure that needs to be exactly followed to register there, please click here. My viewpoint is Trunks attacking fusion zamasu = black is gone because he isnt immortal. Infinite Zamasu is an immortal multiversal being that was even breaking time and space and reaching into a different timeline from the past. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Anyone below Super Shenron shouldn't be able to do a thing to him and the angels are most definitely below him. In the anime, Infinite Zamasu appears as an endless number of Zamasu's face in the sky, however, the faces are entirely green other than their mouth and eyes which are reddish white. Fused Zamasu also wouldn't likely fare much better against Jiren either. Goku and Beerus fist bump and destroy the universe with Zamasu as Goku IT's them to safety. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. Bloodlusted. 19 _Goku- 3 yr. ago There is a way, they nuke the universe Zamasu resides in, before he gets the chance to spread, but that's extremely OOC for either of them. Official Superhero Database stats. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So I dont think lifting strength should factor in. What stands these two apart is that Jiren studies intense meditation and calculated strategies, whereas Broly fights purely through instinct, which has its share of setbacks. Dragon Ball has teased Gohan's potential ever since his first appearance and he slowly surpasses not only his father but every other Saiyan once he accesses Super Saiyan 2 strength. That's what happens. Tier: 2-C, higher with Light of Justice, far higher with Gigantification | 2-C, Name: Zamasu (Fusion Zamasu, Fused Zamasu, Merged Zamasu), Classification: Shinjin/Saiyan Hybrid, Potara Fusion of Goku Black and Future Zamasu | Abstract Ideas of Justice and Order, Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Master Martial Artist, Acrobatics, Flight, Spaceflight, Accelerated Development (Training; Physical Stats, Abilities), Self-Sustenance (Types 1 and 2), Ki Manipulation (Can be used defensively and offensively, to strengthen his skin or to fire ki blasts, which can home in on targets, form defensive barriers which also can keep out poision and render absorption ineffective, create weapon), Ki Sensing (Can locate others by reading their ki), Enhanced Senses (Should have the senses of the Saiyans), Accelerated Development (Battle, Physical Stats; Becomes stronger from being damaged), Time Travel & Acausality (Type 1; when wearing the Time Ring he is immune to changes in his previous timeline and the ring allows him to travel to the future and back), Regeneration (Mid-Godly; as an immortal, granted by Super Shenron, Whis stated that the Hakai wouldn't kill him, which has been shown to destroy one's body and soul completely, so they cannot resurrect. According to shin episode 109 jiren was stronger than anything they had ever faced. After Fused Zamasu is defeated, Infinite Zamasu is born and starts assimilating the universes and invades the Time Nest in an attempt to kill the Future Warrior along with the Supreme Kai of Time and Old Kai. Whether Vados is still stronger than Whis or not remains to be seen, but physical strength is never going to be the deciding factor when someone faces an Angel. Jiren is considered one of the strongest characters in Dragon Ball, but there are still a few fan-favorites who could beat him in a fight. Title says all. 5. @03s7: yes there is he never said erase before this point. Being the Legendary Super Saiyan, Broly is someone whose powers are exceptionally higher than that of the average Saiyan. It's about looking cool. He doesn't have to kill Zamasu, and probably won't even attempt to, so there is no fear of Zamasu going full T-virus and infecting the universe. A feat of great cunning yes but not of power. Future Zeno looks up to the sky of Zamasu's face and deems him annoying. Jiren has no way of killing him the fact that zeno was required to nuke him tells you much. Vegito in particular would easily erase base Jiren from existence with only one finger. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight. This in itself is a testament to Kefla's phenomenal power. Additionally, he was even shown to be present in the main timeline and was affecting the present to a certain degree, implying he was actually affecting space-time as well. Jiren is likely to charge at Zeno and attempt to overwhelm him with brute force. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. In the anime, however, Infinite Zamasu can still be heard emitting the same insane laughter even after Future Zeno appeared. "Zamasu to Burakku - Fukamaru futari no nazo . and our Peso Tiempo Calidad Subido . RELATED: 10 Funniest Moments From The Dragon Ball Franchise. And he's also "Engulfing the universe" implying he's fitting it inside him and isn't collapsing himself. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Thanks to Kale's special Legendary Super Saiyan form, Kefla is several times stronger than the average fusion. Androids have been a persistent threat in Dragon Ball ever since the original series. RELATED: 10 Best Filler Characters In Anime History. Furthermore, Fused Zamasu in Heroes hasn't really shown any new crazy feat. So in conclusion since i decided merged zamasu is 40,404,040,000,000 times more powerful then jiren, is immortal, and can travel through time, im pretty sure merged zamasu wins this and if all else fails if jiren takes him out somehow his immortality can turn him into infinite zamasu which required zeno to take out, so i think merged zamasu wins. This thread is pointless, tiers are given through sheer size, and arguing that the saiyans held back an attack for a moment only shows that they should also be low 2-C (on a much lower level, but the same tier regardless). Super Saiyan Blue Vegito is the next stage in power when it comes to Potara Earing fusions between Universe 7's heaviest hitters. Just because you're a certain tier doesn't mean you can lift stuff at that level. The main argument is that he gets it via physiology, but he also gets his attack potency (low 2-C) through physiology, meaning that scaling people to his attack potency but not his lifting strength is contradictory and all his stats would scale to his ki, which suppressed Jiren is stated to surpass and the wiki accepts this scaling, so the physiology argument doesn't work. Jiren can't beat infinite zamasu, he would have to destroy the universe first to get rid of him, Jiren have infinite 3D power due to shaking the World of Void, he stomps. Jiren is unquestionably powerful, but Goku's Ultra Instinct skills have only grown more robust following the Tournament of Power. Fusion Zamasu Vegito Vs Gogeta Broly Power Levels. Really bad energy'' but when Jiren powered up Beerus said '' How is it possible for someone to be this strong" I believe he could even kill zamasu because Goku thought if he had a senzu bean he could beat merged infinite zamasu For other incarnations of Zamasu, see, List of characters killed by Infinite Zamasu. @frocharocha: Jiren's from another universe. Vegito is an incalculably powerful being, and Jiren wouldn't stand a chance, especially with tricks like Instant Transmission and Forced Spirit Fission also in the mix. Infinite Zamasu transforms into Super Saiyan Ros, wears Potara & Time Ring, has Time Machine, and creates Clones. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. You are using an out of date browser. 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