I havent yet been able to find out the cause of Coach Vardanians untimely death. The quality of the recording is surprisingly good, considering it was recorded on dads ancient Wollensak reel-to-reel and that it sat in our garage for decades. Hey Brian When I started in the fire service everyone was expected to just suck it up, and as many of you know, its not easy!. I looked across to the other building and saw a teacher named Mr. Snyder. During our post incident review, we tried to figure out what would be the best way to triage patients. I was never sure if that was true or if it was just dads way of getting me to quit the band I was in at the time. Youve come to the right place. The news of the crash spread like wild fire through the school even though we were miles away. I saw one boy on fire. Someone ran into me and I fell down, Wallace Roger, 13, told a Times reporter. On that particular day, I was home with a cold. Sad time for all. The scenario was an airplane crash out of John Wayne Airport. MIchael Russell also a graduate of James Monroe High School, as was Donna. I believe there was a connection between the two houses of worship during the 60s civil rights struggle. I am 75 years old now and still remember incident vividly,,it is so tragic that I believe it is something one never forgets. My father and sister were both on the Pacoima campus when it happened my dad as a teacher and my sister Pam as a thirteen year-old student (it was her birthday). One of three students. By the way, Im not sure how your comment wound up appearing as if it came from me, but Ill look into it. At Every high school reunion we have a pre-party on Friday night and all of the men/boys sit around the table and tell their stories about that day. Yeah, it seems kids of the Cold War era were so extensively drilled with drop and cover that they just naturally assumed the explosion was the Rooskies unloading nuclear hell on Pacoima. Yes, my classroom was one row back from the fence dividing the two schools. I do still live in the Valley, but far from good old Beachy. I find it interesting that he is walking solo through the crash site. Yours is the first to tell about those scars from a mental health professionals point of view. The post I Felt That I Had Saved My Own Life: A Polish Womans Harrowing Story of Illegal Abortion appeared first on The Na []. At first it looked like one plane and its landing gear then as they got closer we could see it was two planes, then we saw the parachute. I was sixteen then and even though miles away and knowing no one envolved, yet I was very traumitized by such a horror. Again, Bill, thanks so much for your input. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. As I wrote above, he almost never spoke of the disaster. I apologize for being off-topic. A school official tries to calm the students by announcing, It was a jet blast. Anybody out there remember her? Thank you so much for your comment. It was organized under the California Office of Emergency Services. I posted a comment on Russ Buchanans website some time ago asking anyone who was on the field that day to contact me. I miss that school so much. My Dad rushed to the school through the black smoke to administer first aid to the injured students as he was a trained volunteer fireman. I had harrowing moments in my years of flying, but nothing like that day. I had a clear view of the plane. Since then I became a military pilot and have a greater understanding of flight along with the risks associated with flying. I finished 3rd grade there. Also, you might be interested in the Then and Now site about the crash. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B collided with a United States Air Force Northrop F-89 Scorpion. Yeah, I liked him too. He must have lived near me on Beachy Ave. Your assessment of the situation at the school directly after the crash is chilling and sad. As far as I know, the law(s) still is on the books. My mom came running out of the house, screaming for me to come home. Terry Brown. Ill be back soon. I found this blog while Google searching for information about that crash. The heat from the 100 foot tall flames to my right were hotter than the oil I was laying in. Ive heard from many that the school staff handled the situation exceptionally well. {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252 I was five years Oldfield at a nearby nursery school when this happened. Hey, Terry Im glad Gary was able to shine some light on that day for you. By fortune, all of those classrooms students were assembled on the other side of the school; had the children been there, the death toll would have been much higher. May they Rest In Peace. We were in the open when the debris starting falling and the ground shaking. Because of the sheer number of comments, this is a problem that crops up every so often on my pages, Pacoima Jr. High School Airplane Crash of 1957 (audio recording as it happened) and Eyewitness to the Carnage A Personal Account of the 1957 Pacoima Crash. How horrible was that! I like you, remember the crash vividly. He probably took the reel of tape directly from Pacoima to his gig at the station that day for broadcast. We attended the 50 yr memorial and tree planting at the school Jan. 31, 2007. My uncles story was one that has not been told and I think it added to your blog rather than detracting from it. I read the reports and listened to your Dads tape. Russ, thanks for the time and effort to post and manage this thread. Though I never knew him personally, I frequently heard the elder Broadous name mentioned in my house and at our church, Pacoima Congregational. Talk about different times. It was very low. Douglas DC-7B, Continental Airlines. I just found this site. The horror of what happened that day comes through clearly in this recording. Wow, haunting yet amazingthank you for sharing! Gary. It seems just about everybody who witnessed the crash, including you and my sister, developed a lifelong discomfort with flying. I still remember seeing a great deal of plane parts scattered across the gym field. Always good to hear from a fellow Beachy-ite. He was a Sabre Jet mechanic. I graduated 1969. I ran across another site that mentioned that there was an American Legion awards ceremony going on a the time of the crash. I dont have any memories of the actual crash but two people said they saw me running so I know I was awake for part of it. Well, this plane crash was horrendous, I will never forget it, I remember parts of the plane landing in our backyard, I think I was walking home from Beachy Avenue Elementary School when it happened, about 2 blocks away at around 11 a.m. or so. My sister, who had left the athletic field moments before impact, is definitely a white-knuckler. Thanks, Russ, for sharing all of this amazing material. April 3, 1957; UK Tests a Hydrogen Bomb May 15, 1957; Little Rock Crisis At 10:15 a.m., the Douglas Aircraft Co. DC-7B aircraft left Santa Monica Airport on its first test flight. As we ran outside I could see the carnage from the crash, some bodies and pieces of plane laying everywhere. I never forgot it, its not the sort of thing you forget. I remember thinking, please dont put one of those things in my hair or on my clothes. I think there was a lot of heroism on that day, but few names have been mentioned. I Dont know how to send it to you. Im glad everything went well with your studies. You were certainly an adventurous and inquisitive fourth-grader, werent you. My brother, Marvin, who was also at Pacoima Jr. High that day, may be able to tell you something about one of the boys who was injured. If my dad thought he was in trouble for being AWOL at work, my mother was about to finish his day. Terrified, I couldnt even budge. On January 31, 1957, a Douglas DC-7B transport plane crashed into the school yard of Pacoima Junior High School, 9919 Laurel Canyon Boulevard, after colliding with a Northrop F-89J Scorpion jet trainer plane. In doing so, it began raining debris onto the Pacoima neighborhoods below as the aircraft began to break apart. I was at Montegue Elementary School right across from our house. I remember that I left my classroom and ran around the building and into the field. Just a quick note, Russ. They were probably looking for info that was already in the rumor mill. Im wondering if I had him as a teacher. Im curious, did the sound on the recording sound like what you remember hearing? I had just turned five on the 16th of January and the plane flew right over me, raining down some sort of metallic confetti. Change). Though you were born many years after the Pacoima tragedy and live half a world away, the depth of your concern for the victims shows there is hope for our species yet. I wanted to reply to Evans cousin. Ive always wondered for the past 55 years if there was anyone else here who remembered that day. My heart goes out to any and all who experienced this disaster. I think you have my email address Ill check. Another memory I have is of the television coverage. Now it makes me think of your father too (but in a good way). I wonder what ever happened to Roy Reasoner? Since I first posted my note I was contacted by one person and we had a good talk. Both of my younger sisters attended the elementary school next door to Pacoima Junior High. He was in the 7th grade, but not on the gym field. If nothing else came from your efforts you should be satisfied that you helped out a survivor! For those who have nightmares, I have always called them chase dreams. I used to have a lot of them, especially during my Paramedic years. I can only imagine how weird and disturbing it would be to have such a pivotal life experience erased from memory. Im now 63, born in 1952. Who knows, maybe one of your new acquaintances has written here. Ill tell her you said hello. Im always struck by how widespread the interest in Richie Valens continues to be so long after his death. Thanks for your interest. Well drawn memories like yours add dimension to the story and help to give those of us who werent there a better idea of the situation, awful as it was. Not to mention, the lifelong fear of flying that many witnesses have to this day. And Larry Bakken. Even though I never met Evan, I grew up hearing about what happened. Thanks, Knight. Evan was already gone by the time of my first visit, but a large portrait of him hung prominently in the living room of their Beachy Avenue home. Yeah, I liked Pacoima too a true melting pot, and we all got along pretty darned well, cholas, cholos and paddies, alike. After my capture, I was taken into an office and told to wait. With the help of other Paramedics, Nurses, Physicians, Fire Chiefs, private ambulance companies, and other Orange County Agencies, the plan is in place and several Mass Casualty Drills are put on every year. The post Nothing Encapsulates the False Promise of Capitalism Like Plastic appeared first on The Nation. Like you, I was unsure whether I had actually seen what I remembered as shiny, tin foil-like bits of metal falling from the sky, or if Id somehow developed the memory from repeatedly hearing others accounts. I was in class, a distance from the ball fields, but we saw the flash and thought it was a bomb. In 1957 a mid air collision over Pacoima Junior High killed 5 crew members, 3 children and injured 78. For weeks after the crash there were people on the field, on hands and knees, picking up pieces of the wreckage. ball of fire.and what appeared to look like I was 9 yrs old and my brother was 11 yrs old, students at Canyon Elementary School, and my mother, Margaret Eck Carr, came to Canyon Elementary shortly after she heard the news on T.V. I remember Evan Elsner, but I did not know him. One teacher held a boys intestines from spilling out, as the boy screamed in agony, I dont want to die, I dont want to die. Teachers were everywhere, trying to comfort the injured. For some reason I stopped running and put my head down on the back of the portable bleachers. Your You Tube idea is good. I cannot tell you how the events of that day and this recording have stayed with me all these days. The May 19, 1957 episode of The CBS Radio Workshop ("The Theater of the Mind") was a discussion of this crash, including interviews with people who were witnesses and/or affected by the crash, including Ronnie Brann's mother and a close friend. Terrifying moments seem to go by in slo-mo. I sat in the rear of the room closest to the back door. If you mean Pacoima Junior, I saw it a few years ago and it still looks like the fine learning institution we knew. Her name was Joyce. I would like to obtain a copy of the video it is really telling. The system integrates with Urban Search And Rescue (USAR) teams, Hazardous Materials (HazMat) teams, High rise firefighting operations, law enforcement operations, and any other operations that may be occurring at the same time. I was injured in the plane crash and would like to talk with others who remember what happened.I dont. did someone set them off or? I can picture Raymond Eaker, as well. May I have permission to post your link onto a Facebook page called, https://www.facebook.com/groups/59234735717/, as well as my own? Well done, Mr. Masek. Send me an email address and Ill try to send the mp3 I made as an attachment. (But that may be memory modification over the years). Eight people were killed, including three students at Pacoima Junior High School. By the way, I went to Pacoima a decade later and there was still lots of music going on. I found your Pacoima crash page very informative and well written. My mother had heard the whine of the falling plane and ran out screaming, Oh, my god, oh my god, I think a plane just crashed! We looked out the front window and saw a mushroom cloud of thick black smoke rising over the schools. My dad had joined the Air National Guard in Idaho about a year before, and had gotten a transfer to the Van Nuys National Guard Base (146th Fighter-Interceptor Wing). Thanks again for posting as I commented once before. (LogOut/ Thank you for complimenting my youthful selfs social skills. I went to Santa Monica College, and graduated from a business college with a degree in accounting and had a successful 40-year carrer in administration/accounting, married my husband, whom I met while spending our summers at Lake Arrowhead, have one daughter who is 41 and we are now retired and moved in 2007 to Prescott, AZ, after spending 34 years in Pasadena. We often walked home together from Pacoima Junior High. Thanks again. I was injured and was told I was awake and running before I was hit but cant remember anything. Thanks for commenting and for the attaboy. Im going through new comments now and I should have his up in a few minutes. After assuring the young ladys safety and involvement in counseling, I turned my attention to the broader family issues. Most Fire and Police Departments, and EMS agencies have adopted post incident stress debriefing or counseling programs (late 1970s). [] event can be seen here. They had come to the school because, of course, they had children there. I was in grammar school and heard the plane as it was going down. Its all over.. The History Guy remembers a mid-air collision between two planes flying test flights over a California city and its connection to Ritchie Valens.This is original content based on research by The History Guy. Off to one side, a large plane engine lay embedded 15 ft down in the Earth, smoldering with an acrid fume. Images in the Public Domain are carefully selected and provide illustration. As a young childno. I can only imagine the horrors and the sadness you witnessed that day. And yes, you have my permission to use the audio in your classes. No hiding under the desk for you; you wanted to know what was going on. .I have watched many videos of ww2 bombers returning home after having suffered incredible damage to both wings and tail..yet they could still fly it . I will never know if that was the reason. But strangely, that is all I remember. Then, when I got to Pacoima Jr. High the drills just stopped. I heard the planes roar as it went directly over my head, just above the trees. I assume you went to Pacoima after Terra Bella. At PJHS, I was good friends with John Ritoli who played with a band called the Showmen. Ill never forget seeing one of the students hopping away to safety on one leg. Fortunately, you ran in the right direction. Is the beginning of her speech on the tape too, or is what you posted what you have? I was totally mesmerized by it. Did you live on OBeck or Oback??? I didnt have a WordPress account at the time I was trying to listen last week. I am now teaching disaster response to emergency services and, with your permission, would like to utilize the recording in my classes. Thanks for writing and for your kind words for the victims and their families. appeared first on The Nation. Dave. Those sights would have been tough enough for any adult to handle, let alone elementary-aged kids. Thanks for the info. I still cry when I try to tell people what happened that day. Thanks for the appreciation. I guess 20,000 + feet. Its interesting to read all of the comments. But that day seems indelibly etched into the brains of those who were there, including my sister and father. If anyone has any information on her they could share, we would be much obliged. Its crazy how she just said we have one life to live right before it happened. 8th and 9th grades. I was a student in the seventh grade on Terry Brown (916) 364 0440. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Yknow, at the house we never talked much about the crash. So maybe your dad did distribute copies to all the other Jr. High Schools. Poly High was my next stop, where I managed to stay until graduation. Thats why you hear the tape speeding up at the end. Boys running and screaming in pain and confusion. Thank you for posting this remarkable, memorable recording and retelling of the events on that fateful day. I was just 6 years old and leaving kindergarten at Beachy Elementary School, just west of Pacoima Jr. Hi. When youre thankful that you were blown into a pool of hot airplane oil rather than being allowed to continue on your chosen path. A lot of human misery occurred on that day. Yeah, putting up this Pacoima crash page has proved to be an amazing experience. Russ, thank you for hosting this area where people who experienced the Pacoima plane crash can come to share and support one another. A part of the plane actually did land in the middle of the church, but no one was hurt. I lived on Daventry street and attended Telfair Avenue School. My sister, who was a friend of Evan Elsners, told me today that our parents, John and Eleanor Buchanan, attended Ronnies memorial service. It means a great deal to me. I was able to talk to her about it a couple more times. Thank you so much for your interest and posting this piece of history. Thanks again. Two years after the Pacoima disaster, Valens was killed along with his fellow performers and tour mates, J.P. Big Bopper Richardson and Buddy Holly when their light plane crashed near Clear Lake, Iowa. He was not happy with my behavior. A VERY SAD DAY AGAIN, WHEN WE LOST HIM MR. BUCHANAN WAS MY ENGLISH TEACHER AND A DARN GOOD ONE TOO.. First, thank you for the kind words about my dad. The sound was a whisper at first and then it starting getting louder and louder and louder. Speaking of fathers, your dads actions on that day were those of a very good and decent man. Get the day's top news with our Today's Headlines newsletter, sent every weekday morning. July 12, 1963: Curtiss A. Adams, the only man to survive the Jan. 31, 1957, crash of an F-89J and a DC-7B over Pacoima, testifies in a lawsuit between Douglas, which made the transport, and Northrop, which built the F-89J. Because what you heard is the entire recording (digitally dubbed to CD from the original),he must have started recording after the student began to speak. Seconds later, part of the hurtling wreckage slammed onto the grounds of the Pacoima Congregational Church, killing all four Douglas crew members aboard while the major portions fell onto the adjacent playground of Pacoima Junior High School. The full story by Cecilia Rasmussen is online: L.A. Then and Now The day fiery disaster fell from the sky. One more way the Buchanan family was connected to that grisly day. I had no idea Phyllis had gone out on the field to retrieve her jacket. At least, I hope so. I joined Newport Beach Fire Department in 1971. At least on the LAFD my actions could make a difference and count. My sister and I lost touch with Cindy, his sister, in the late sixties. Russ, Im glad he is still alive to this day. On a lighter note if you are the Garth Rodriguez I think you are, you were the lead singer in one my very first bands. Hiya, tabiventure AKA Ronnies Cousin (I apologize if I did know your name but forgot it) . It was chaos on the field of the junior high school. It seems like the majority of people who witnessed the crash and/or its aftermath developed the same fear. Interesting you said Wollensak.I can still see the cover of that reel to reel tape and it was 3M. I was only five when the plane came down and remember very little of that day, despite the fact that my big sister and my dad were on campus when it happened. Several times she came back to a pair of shoes. Try again later. I was in the third grade. Meanwhile, in Palmdale to the north . Thank you so much for commenting and for the nice words about the rest of the blog. 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